Brisbane

One of the biggest problems in australia past and present is, the represntatives that assemble the pumps bolting them onto just any brand chassis (most cases the cheapest and lightest) and then try so hard to keep the axle weights and dimensions within regulations that they fail to do thorough stability testing before selling the pump. As a consequence many pumps here are very unstable when pumping off the side.

Hope no body was injured , most importantly.

I could not have said it better my self, this is a major problem we are creating with

mounting on light weight trucks. Where does the duty of care and liability play a role with

the mounting and stability testing of these Australian mounted units??

Some one has to ask the question??

Take care out there.

That "pump over" has nothing to do with representatives fitting boom to lightweight trucks. The operator should never placed the pump so close to the edge.

The boom outrigger foot print is where the stability starts, once the boom is up on all four outriggers a truck weight difference of several ton between your lightweight V heavy weight truck spread over the whole footprint would be 1% or 2%.

No what we have here is a photo demonstration of "operator error" Any pump set up in that position would have done the same thing.

It looks like a new rig ... how experienced was the operator? 

must be trained properly

It looks like a Korean 28 meter boom,

i know a few people that rushed out and bought these becuase of the low purchase price and then regretted it after wards, the booms are generally heavy with a small rear outrigger foot print then mounted to a light weight truck equals a unstable pump and when working off the side and the pump is not set up 100% correct you find them on there side. This is not the first photo of one that's been uploaded on the net, But the funny thing is every one is still rushing out to buy the cheapest pump out there.

Come on, most all the big companies are now also buying Korean pumps, what your saying is just not true. Maybe 10 15 years ago but they were Putz deisgns anyway, good pumps. I believe your post is just slander really, sorry.

I have a korean made 40 meter and it is just as stable as any putzmeister I have ran.

I didn't mean for my past comment to come across as slander towards the Korean pumps, there are many Korean pumps out there these days that have proven them selfs to be a good pump with happy owners, but my comment was aimed towards the small pumps with that rear foot print due to knowing 2 people that have owned them and there comments about working off the side with them, I also know people with Schwing 28's that have the different rear out riggers and they tell me there as stable as a rock. I know there a copy of a Putz and I also know I guy with a Putz and he said his is fine to use out the side and off the back courner so I don't know what the difference is? I also believe some off the brands are changing from that style rear leg to swing out rear legs maybe for more stable set up? I hope I haven't offended any one just going by what I have been told from a few close pumper friends.

If it wasnt for the opinions and viewpoints of fellow operators from around the world,this board would not exist.Stick with your point and if it offends some faceless corporation,so be it..

The early 28 metre with the drop down rear legs where a little unstable if flat stick over the side, so from 2006 model on the 28 has swing out rear legs 

Hi Todd , just take a chill pill......

We are all talking from our experiances and shareing our opinions.

Thats what its all about isnt it??

Hey the Koreans & Chinesse  they do a good job. Little heavy....

The point was the mounting of the pump onto truck chassiss .....

Any way take it easy ..

Todd raises an interesting point, Korean pumps 90's technology and designs mounted on modern lightweight trucks = recipe for disaster.

All manufacturers these days are playing with fire trying to outdo eachother the longest boom, lightest pump. The carbo came down the other day = operator error = crack the arm in half =  get the superglue out. Wouldn't crack the boom if it was made of good old fashioned steel. Would be working the next day. Makes you wonder who has an agenda manufacturers aren't looking after the consumer anymore, they are too busy trying hard to outdo the next innovative concept, with brainstorming ideas and guess who pays for it all??

Some of us just want to pump concrete and make an honest dollar and have somthing to show for it, but seems the more 'ideas and innovations' these days are simply costing us too much to keep up with /end rant.

In myn onest opinion the rate race of longer booms is not the problem but seling booms with a smaller foot print,

the 32 where I started my career whit had a bigger foot print than the 34 that came next. the latest 36 that came into the company had the same footprint as the old 34. modern steel makes it posible to make the boom litter but the pippes and the concretestay the same. In my memory the 32 had almoost no boombounce

Stabilty load test conditions has dropped considerably past few years with all manufacturers. If i recall, used to be 25% -> then 20% -> now at 15% extra load on the boom and the pump must stay stable. That would mean a smaller footprint and / or less mass on the chassis.

To put it in perspective, the old days a 6 meter 100mm hose full of concrete was regularily emptied by lifting up the boom at full stretch. not a good idea to do that with todays pumps.

I sometimes wonder if these machines are able to pump heavy weight concrete. Considering that is at least 10% heavier. It's a little strains if you have to ask the manufacturer if you cane pump concrete.

Budgie: I agree with you! I have run a 33m cheap knock-off brand (which probbably nobody ever heared off called JMBH) with the ''slide-out'' rear outrigger and it was a very scary pump when booming off the side. When pumping hard the opposite front outrigger would lift up like 1 to 2 foot !!! while the rear would stay down. It must have something to do with the stiffness of the frame.. Cheap materials/more flex.. The previous operator assured me it was normal and it was no problem  It never went over though  

SUPERDOFFER: You've got an interesting point there with the heavy weight concrete. The margins are to small.

The truck is not the issue here. Look at the 874 &875s they had the same drop down outrigers and the putz 28 4section had the same style. Yes they were a little tipsy off the rear but if they went over it was usually operator fault. And you dont need a truck under aor mounter to a boom pump to operate it just to transport it from job to job they will function without fliping over without a truck under them. So it is not a truck issue.

Thats the worst I've ever heared sorry antique pumper.. A boompump will not flip over when you remove the truck its mounted to?? Do you realy think that??